The letter æ is not allowed? - Page 2 - Guild Wars Forums

Snograt · Mar 04, 2008, 05:03 PM // 17:03

It is in modern (British) English. Americans never got the hang of it, so whenever used in the States, a single e is substituted. Anyone ever heard of Æon Flux?

See the Wikipædia entry ^_^

Zahr Dalsk · Mar 04, 2008, 05:10 PM // 17:10

I like how this thread is going

Just for the record, here's a sample of what I've made by hounding various companies over defective products or discontent with my purchase.

- xbox 360
- $4,750 american
- a new microwave
- nVidia 8800GT
- 1 bottle of hand lotion (don't ask)

Seriously, when something breaks or wears out, don't just buy a new one. Contact the company and complain until they just send you something to get you to stop bothering them. Use paper letters. Unlike emails, they can't just delete them and claim there was a server error. Whining does pay off

Kakumei · Mar 04, 2008, 05:19 PM // 17:19

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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

Whining does pay off

Unless the game doesn't support that particular character, in which case there is literally no chance they'll rewrite the code for you.

Zahr Dalsk · Mar 04, 2008, 05:20 PM // 17:20

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Originally Posted by Kakumei

Unless the game doesn't support that particular character, in which case there is literally no chance they'll rewrite the code for you.

No, it does, it works in All Chat.

Kakumei · Mar 04, 2008, 05:22 PM // 17:22

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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

No, it does, it works in All Chat.

That particular character in names, rather. I know I've never seen it, and I've certainly seen a lot of names, though surely I could be mistaken--I still wouldn't get my hopes up.

The Meth · Mar 04, 2008, 05:30 PM // 17:30

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Originally Posted by isamu kurosawa

You can't use characters that cannot by typed on a basic keyboard from your own territory because then other people in game will have trouble typing your name in features like wisp, friends list, guild invites reporting etc.
Its an obvious reason no amount of pestering support can change everyone elses keyboards.
And before anyone says it alt+numpad is fairly complex ot the average pc user and most gw players wont even know about it, basic keyboard in this case willl be the qwerty keyset.

That's exactly why this won't happen. 99% of PC users won't know how to type the characters. It's just a rather meaningless name, suck it up and get over it. No need to rewrite half the character creation system just so you can have a special name.

Evaine · Mar 04, 2008, 05:39 PM // 17:39

Well, good luck with your campaign. It will be interesting to see how it turns out.

Covah · Mar 04, 2008, 05:41 PM // 17:41

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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

No, it does, it works in All Chat.

thats so you can talk to people in other languages. You can use letters with accents on them to talk to people n french, but you can't make names with accents. Its the same thing.

Zahr Dalsk · Mar 04, 2008, 08:27 PM // 20:27

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Originally Posted by The Meth

That's exactly why this won't happen. 99% of PC users won't know how to type the characters. It's just a rather meaningless name, suck it up and get over it. No need to rewrite half the character creation system just so you can have a special name.

- There is no rewriting of the character system needed, Gw already supports it, simply flags it as not permitted in names.

- Due to the background of this particular name I would prefer to keep it accurate. So I plan to pester them for a few days and see how it goes. My hopes are not high, but I like to at least try at stuff instead of just quitting.

Numa Pompilius · Mar 04, 2008, 08:55 PM // 20:55

Same is true for numbers, latvian letters, and Kanji as is true for your danish æ: they're not English letters and hence not allowed in names, but they are allowed in chat.

Well, good luck. The windmills are waiting.

Coloneh · Mar 04, 2008, 10:46 PM // 22:46

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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

EDIT: ALT+145 is not hard. æ. Anyone can do that, easily. All keyboards come with a number pad.

my keyboard has no number pad.

plenty of people use the Zboard Merc

quickmonty · Mar 04, 2008, 10:51 PM // 22:51

My Zboard Merc does have a number pad, and if I have numlock off I can still use the number keys across the top of the qwerty keyboard.

Kerwyn Nasilan · Mar 05, 2008, 01:57 AM // 01:57

æ hmmm never knew how to right this cool little letter

æ

Kumu Honua · Mar 05, 2008, 02:05 AM // 02:05

Only use I have seen for æ is for Mediæval Bæbes. Oh, and Æon Flux of course. To state that æ is part of the english language is like saying that Latin is English.

Tachyon · Mar 05, 2008, 02:05 AM // 02:05

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Originally Posted by cosyfiep

it is not part of the standard 'american' english so it is not allowed---sorry.

It's not available to use on my copy either, and I'm in England using the Euro servers. Seen as I use 'English' English, and not the bastardised variety, why can't I use it?

Dawgboy · Mar 05, 2008, 02:17 AM // 02:17

If they started allowing freaky alt+whatever characters in names I could see a whole army of bots/griefers using them and people not knowing what to type to put them on ignore. No thanks.

Numa Pompilius · Mar 05, 2008, 02:37 AM // 02:37

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Originally Posted by Azagoth

Seen as I use 'English' English, and not the bastardised variety, why can't I use it?

Recite the English (British) alphabet from a to z. Notice what's NOT in there?
I don't know where Wikipedia got the idea that æ is still in use in British English, because it's not really; just like in the US (incidentally Æon Flux is a *US* cartoon) it is used only as a stylistic touch, a novelty.

gremlin · Mar 05, 2008, 02:54 AM // 02:54

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Originally Posted by Azagoth

It's not available to use on my copy either, and I'm in England using the Euro servers. Seen as I use 'English' English, and not the bastardised variety, why can't I use it?

Agreed
There shouldn't be any such thing as "Standard American English" certainly not in written form.

It should be referred to as Standard American

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The AE as a single symbol is used in many languages and it is important but generally not used in modern English.
It really comes into usage for Latin words or phrases.
We could go into Ligatures and Latin Dipthongs etc but I certainly havn't had need to use them in my life.
I should spell ACHAEOLOGY as ARCHÆOLOGY It is more accurate a spelling but it is inconvenient to have to hold down alt and type 0198 all the time.

**cosyfiep** · Mar 05, 2008, 03:29 AM // 03:29

there is a trend to call what we speak in the usa as american instead of american english as the two languages become farther apart from the original english spoke/written years ago....
When I was teaching 'englsh' in japan we had a very long discussion about the two ---and soon we realized that american will be realized as its own language separate from english ....
so what we teach in schools is now called standard american english. ugh.

Curse You · Mar 05, 2008, 06:39 AM // 06:39

Why not just use the phonetic equivalent to the 'æ' instead? If you just want it to look cool, then you'll have no luck convincing anyone.

Just look at the O-Umlaut in German. The phonetic equivalent in 'oe' because it produces the same desired sound.

Mar 04, 2008, 05:03 PM // 17:03	#21
Snograt rattus rattus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: London, UK GMT±0 ±1hr DST Guild: [GURU]GW [wiki]GW2 Profession: R/	It is in modern (British) English. Americans never got the hang of it, so whenever used in the States, a single e is substituted. Anyone ever heard of Æon Flux? See the Wikipædia entry ^_^ __________________ Si non confectus, non reficiat

Mar 04, 2008, 05:39 PM // 17:39	#27
Evaine Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Guild: KORE Profession: N/	Well, good luck with your campaign. It will be interesting to see how it turns out. Last edited by Evaine; Mar 04, 2008 at 05:43 PM // 17:43..

Mar 04, 2008, 05:10 PM // 17:10	#22
Zahr Dalsk Grotto Attendant Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Canada	I like how this thread is going Just for the record, here's a sample of what I've made by hounding various companies over defective products or discontent with my purchase. - xbox 360 - $4,750 american - a new microwave - nVidia 8800GT - 1 bottle of hand lotion (don't ask) Seriously, when something breaks or wears out, don't just buy a new one. Contact the company and complain until they just send you something to get you to stop bothering them. Use paper letters. Unlike emails, they can't just delete them and claim there was a server error. Whining does pay off

Mar 04, 2008, 08:55 PM // 20:55	#30
Numa Pompilius Grotto Attendant Join Date: May 2005 Location: At an Insit.. Intis... a house. Guild: Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF] Profession: W/Me	Same is true for numbers, latvian letters, and Kanji as is true for your danish æ: they're not English letters and hence not allowed in names, but they are allowed in chat. Well, good luck. The windmills are waiting.

Mar 04, 2008, 10:51 PM // 22:51	#32
quickmonty Ancient Windbreaker Join Date: May 2005	My Zboard Merc does have a number pad, and if I have numlock off I can still use the number keys across the top of the qwerty keyboard.

Mar 05, 2008, 01:57 AM // 01:57	#33
Kerwyn Nasilan Forge Runner Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: WHERE DO YOU THINK Profession: W/	æ hmmm never knew how to right this cool little letter æ

Mar 05, 2008, 02:05 AM // 02:05	#34
Kumu Honua Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2008	Only use I have seen for æ is for Mediæval Bæbes. Oh, and Æon Flux of course. To state that æ is part of the english language is like saying that Latin is English.

Mar 05, 2008, 02:17 AM // 02:17	#36
Dawgboy Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ohio Guild: Antisocial Misfit	If they started allowing freaky alt+whatever characters in names I could see a whole army of bots/griefers using them and people not knowing what to type to put them on ignore. No thanks.

Mar 05, 2008, 03:29 AM // 03:29	#39
cosyfiep are we there yet? Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: in a land far far away Guild: guild? I am supposed to have a guild? Profession: Rt/	there is a trend to call what we speak in the usa as american instead of american english as the two languages become farther apart from the original english spoke/written years ago.... When I was teaching 'englsh' in japan we had a very long discussion about the two ---and soon we realized that american will be realized as its own language separate from english .... so what we teach in schools is now called standard american english. ugh.

Mar 05, 2008, 06:39 AM // 06:39	#40
Curse You Furnace Stoker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: South Pole Guild: The Magus Order Profession: N/Mo	Why not just use the phonetic equivalent to the 'æ' instead? If you just want it to look cool, then you'll have no luck convincing anyone. Just look at the O-Umlaut in German. The phonetic equivalent in 'oe' because it produces the same desired sound.